There is no reason for the Democratic Party to be concerned about the new voter ID laws taking effect in several states this coming election. I know, it's racist to ask for ID. Even if the person asking is just trying to verify someone's identity. People of color should never have to show ID for any reason. But don't worry, illegal aliens, dead people and people who vote multiple times will still be able to cast their votes this November. How do I know for sure? Because the Black Panthers will be monitoring polling places nationwide. Yes friends, just as they did back in 2008. Think of it as a public service to the underserved minority community. Don't worry about the Justice Department. Attorney General Eric Holder has already pledged to stay neutral on the issue and not intervene. Just as he did last time. :excited: And let's not forget about ACORN. Those "nuts" will also be helping the cause. It's democracy in action. So grab your nightsticks and proper ID and head on out to the polls this November! :excited: Unless of course, you are a no good racist cracka. In which case you should definitely stay home.

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Strange how the only cases of voter fraud in the past several years to have gone to trial and convicted have involved Republicans...

Oh, and if you're only trying to verify someones identity, what's wrong with a driver's license or state ID?

 

You can't ask someone for their driver's license or state ID, that's discrimination.

The New Black Panther Party or its members were not charged because Holder did not want them to be charged. If I did what they did I would be in jail right now.

 

lets see

First you require them to get a ID at the local driver license center and then you claim to save budget money by cutting the license centers. Also you save money by CHARGING for the ID and if a state employee should tell them they can get it free if they ask, the employee is fired.

Scott Walker Wisconsin voter ID law.

A LIBERAL judge knocked down the law so we do not have to show ID now.

I also remember some Tea Party congressman saying only property owners should be allowed to vote, I know just a off the cuff comment, but that shows you the thinking pattern of a lot of people and some are regulars here.

But then again I remember the old joke and some truth about Chicago years back," Chicago was the most patriotic city in the world, hell they even let the dead vote." There was some truth to the joke. That was a long time ago so do not use it for justifcation now.

They require a utility bill in our area to vote, but what about the homeless and believe me there are a lot more than there use to be. They live in cars at parks and parking lots. So they are not citizens with any rights?

 

Laws requiring ownership of property were around at one time but were rightfully struck down years ago. I think it was DL who suggested that a voter should be able to read the ballot. That's not a bad idea. Asking someone to prove they are legally able to vote should not be a problem. I have to show an ID to cash a check at my bank. How many people of voting age don't have some sort of state ID? I suspect that it's very few.

 

If you can't show Photo ID you don't need to vote. I have to show one to buy guns,ammo,alcohol,tobacco,ect. You can show one for voting or GTFO.

 

but do we need a special law that requires a special ID? I just think it funny that the right wing hates "big brother government", except when it serves their purposes.

 

A drivers license should work.

 

In Pennsylvania, location of one of the worst voter ID laws, more than 700,000 people are likely to be disenfranchised if this law goes into effect. Since president Obama won the state in '08 by only 600,000 votes, this could be an instance where a voter suppression law was used to steal an election by a party that didn't believe it could win on the merits of it's candidate and policies.

Mike Turazi, Pennsylvania House Republican Leader made that intention crystal clear with this statement in a speech to fellow Republican lawmakers:

"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done."

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Driving a car is a privilege. So is drinking alcohol. So are many things you have to identify yourself for with a state-issued ID.

Voting is not a privilege. It's a right, guaranteed by the Constitution. Until this year, America and especially the birthplace of our nation, Pennsylvania, has never been about taking rights away. Rather it has been both a place and an idea intended to extend voting rights and democracy to as many people the world over as possible.

Good men and women have suffered deprivation, torture and have even died defending that right.

Wouldn't it be a shame if their deaths were allowed to count for nothing in order to make Pennsylvania safe for Mitt Romney?

 

which is another irony, as the right wrong opposes the "motor the voter" acts...

 

voter fraud issue was a fraud

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I agree you should be able to read and read in English. I also think you should be able to prove you have at least the equivalent of a HS education.

Education is the key to democarcy. Ignorant people will always be slaves of one form or another.
Consider the education in the dark ages.
Why do certain people today want to dumb down the citizens of the US.

 

It also doesn't work if you're 87, near blind and haven't had a valid license in years. And if you were born at home before accurate birth records were being kept in rural areas, especially in the south, you would find that getting the documentation that the Pennsylvania law and many others require is near impossible.

Never mind that you may have fought in WWII or walked in civil rights marches in Selma Alabama. Republicans think you won't vote the "right" way, so they don't want you voting at all.

 

Literacy tests are are another form of voter suppression. What part of Constitutionally protected right are you having difficulty understanding?

Let's try and be very clear here; Voting, like the right to worship, assemble, speak your mind, have a free press and petition the government for a redress of greivences is a right!

No matter how much Fox News you watch...

 

Right, But it is a right that can be taken away. Felons can't vote and some of them are smarter than most people.

 

True, voting is a right FOR CITIZENS. Our government must insure that only citizens vote. Currently there is no better way of proving that you are a citizen then with some sort of ID. Even seniors need an ID to collect their Social Security.

 

So can many other rights if you're a felon. The right to bear arms, and assemble among them. Irrelevant if you're a registered voter who's only crime is to be perceived as someone who won't support a Republican.

 

A Social Security card isn't a valid ID for the purposes of this law. Only a few types of ID issued by the state are considered valid. Not all counties have offices that provide this type of ID, so a travel cost is involved to get it for most people. Also getting acceptable documents like birth certificates with a raised seal on them is another expense, and as I said, may be impossible to obtain for some.

These laws were enacted to prevent a crime that Pennsylvania conceded they have no evidence ever actually occurs. Other forms of voter fraud, like the registration committed by a Michigan republican recently, go totally unaddressed by laws like this. And so does the only known kind of in-person fraud, that of an ineligible person registering to vote.

It's one and only purpose is to stop eligible voters from exercising their rights, plain and simple.

 

Try living in Illinois. All they asked me at the last election was my name and address. They did not require any evidence that I had a right to vote. Maybe I could have gone to my old precinct and voted there, too.

Charges of voter fraud happen at every election because there is no way to know who has a right to vote without some sort of ID. Maybe the Pennsylvania law went too far. I don't know. The proper response can't be to require nothing.

 

A fed judge just upheld the new photo ID law in Pennsylvania and refused to grant an injunction. It won't go to court before November.

The Messiah stole it fair and square in Pennsylvania last time around. We'll see what happens this time.

Of course, if Eric Holder's Black Panthers show up with their truncheons again, the Messiah should have a fighting chance.

 

Providing a letter sent to you like a bill to your home address and a signature that matches the one on your voter registration card should be enough.

Think about what in-person misrepresentation entails: going into a polling place and saying you're someone else, hoping like hell they haven't voted yet and that you can forge their signature, and stealing a bill from their mail box. Then voting and getting out of there before you're caught and charged with a felony that has a minimum penalty of five years in the graybar hotel.

Then you have to come back and do it again, and again and again to have any statistical effect.

Then, of course, you have to come back again and vote as yourself.

Yeah. I'm sure that happens all the time.

Not.

But that's what proponents of these laws want you to believe is happening, since that's the only justification they have for it.

Now, tell me, are they lying to you and stealing people's rights away for a political advantage or do you think they really want to protect your vote?